Rattus Perfidus | Divinity Original Sin 2 Wiki

Use haste to cure and he can lie again. It's pretty cute

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If you kill the rat with a wand, you can loot its tail and a life essence

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I just casted firebolt on him and it worked ez pz

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I cast Rain on the ground, throw a thunderbolt grenade near him, the rat is shocked and survived, but then he only says that we do not seem lost, and that´s it... Tested BLESS but it will kill the poor ironic rat

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You can toss thunderbolt grenades at them. The grenades inflict 21-27 damage which is less than their health pool so the rats won't die. I was successful in healing the rat that lies but the sarcastic rat dies if you try to heal it. I didn't get xp or reward for fixing their minds other than story lines.

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I was successful in keeping the rat alive by casting rain, and then casting Electric Discharge near it on the standing water.

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I just used first aid on him and it worked voila!

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there are three rats in mazes/dungeons some people are mixing them up.

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I was able to use staff of magus from an improvised staff with one of my non magic users, and he survived!

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ouch...bless killed him

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http://steamcommunity.com/id/Keydet96/screenshot/859488504736369238

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Used the teleport gloves on Rattus Verus, injured him, but he lived. Got nothing, just like he said he really can't offer you anything.

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I confirm. Bless KILLS the sarcastic rat. Tested it out just a moment ago

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Can some user take out the whiny part about some player being confused? It doesn't add anything helpful.

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For any of those still in doubt, a steam user pulled the codes for the rats and it seemed this one is supposed to die. I've pasted the code below, basically, if skill used on lying rat trigger death and voice line. If skill used on truthful rat set flags ([resumably to respond he's been cured) for rat and have him wander about.



//REGION Rat in maze
IF
CharacterUsedSkillOnTarget(_Player, CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeInsideRat_4d27841e-cbe7-4240-b7d7-b40ce922665a, _, _)
THEN
CharacterDie(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeInsideRat_4d27841e-cbe7-4240-b7d7-b40ce922665a, 0, "DoT");
ProcObjectTimer(_Player, "FTJ_SW_InsideRatDied", 4000);

PROC
ProcObjectTimerFinished(_Player, "FTJ_SW_InsideRatDied")
AND
ObjectGetFlag(_Player, "FTJ_SW_ToldLyingRatYes", 1)
THEN
StartVoiceBark("FTJ_SW_VB_InsideRatDied", (CHARACTERGUID)_Player);

IF
ObjectFlagSet("FTJ_SW_ToldLyingRatYes", _Player, _)
THEN
CharacterSetReactionPriority(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeInsideRat_4d27841e-cbe7-4240-b7d7-b40ce922665a, "FleeFromPlayer", 0);
CharacterSetReactionPriority(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeInsideRat_4d27841e-cbe7-4240-b7d7-b40ce922665a, "WanderAbout", 0);

IF
ObjectFlagSet("FTJ_SW_ToldRattusVerrusYes",_Player, _)
THEN
CharacterSetReactionPriority(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeOutsideRat_a8b53e17-07f1-43fb-832c-93c9ff9fb25d, "FleeFromPlayer", 0);
CharacterSetReactionPriority(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeOutsideRat_a8b53e17-07f1-43fb-832c-93c9ff9fb25d, "WanderAbout", 0);

IF
CharacterUsedSkillOnTarget(_Player, CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeOutsideRat_a8b53e17-07f1-43fb-832c-93c9ff9fb25d, _, _)
THEN
ObjectSetFlag(_Player, "FTJ_SW_UsedMagicOnRattusVerrus", 0);
ObjectSetFlag(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeOutsideRat_a8b53e17-07f1-43fb-832c-93c9ff9fb25d, "FTJ_SW_GotMagic", 0);
CharacterSetReactionPriority(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeOutsideRat_a8b53e17-07f1-43fb-832c-93c9ff9fb25d, "FleeFromPlayer", 100);
CharacterSetReactionPriority(CHARACTERGUID_S_FTJ_SW_MazeOutsideRat_a8b53e17-07f1-43fb-832c-93c9ff9fb25d, "WanderAbout", 50);
//END_REGION

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My bad guys, it was a different rat, Rattus Verus...

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I've done this https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4-tSq-u4CreZmlKYjAyVFVxYXM
first I've tried static cloud + bless, but then reloaded and tried simple Bless spell (no any surface, just Bless on the rat) - and it worked too! Perhaps developers fixed it.

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I tried anything, save-scumming and changing appearance with the disguise hat to see all dialogues and what i come up to is that this rat doesn't tell lies, but he says the opposite of what he want to mean.
SPOILERS AHEAD.

The explanation that the rat gives you on how to save him is very similar to the Verus counterpart, that is "you have to use a sharp shock of persuasive magic" (any magic) while Perfidus says "a sharp shock of persuasive magic DON'T solve my problem" (or something on the line) and since he tells lies and magic kills him is like saying "my problem is that i want to die and magic will do it". (PLUS: both dialogues end telling you that the rat steels itself for what's coming")

So showing this it seems the rat wants to die.

What i think is wrong in the dialog (maybe with all this contrary game they wrote it wrong): When you ask if magic would kill it, the narrator says *The rat gives you a long stare that tries - and fails - to say "of course not".* and this should mean that "of course not" -> "magic doesn't kill him" is true because he fails to say it.
It's different if this whole lie/truth is about what they WANT to tell you. He wants to tell you that magic doesn't kill him (so you use magic and release him from life) but he cannot succeed on that.

The whole situation is clear when you talk with Lohse or an Hero/Villain Tag.
Lohse is sure that magic would kill it and the narrator says *The rat gives you a long stare that tries to say "that's not true". It fails. The rat sobs.* again since the rat probably MEAN to tell you that's not true that magic kills him, he cannot succeed on saying that. Then he says he's NOT unhappy, he's NOT desperate for the sweet release of death and he does NOT want to sleep forever in the truth of death.
An Hero or a Villain both wish the rat a long and happy life (a villain doesn't care, the hero understands that magic would kill him and he doesn't do this), and the answer is the same "You are NOT a bastard! NOT a bastard at all!" meaning that he really wanted to die.

That is veeery confusing.

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you're suppose to kill the rat. Lohse has the option to state her magic would kill it, and it responds be stating it does NOT want the sweet release of death, then when it dies your companion states it wanted death. you can't cure it, it's just suppose to die.

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Electric discharge DOES not kill him and works for me. But I don't get XP and attitude is -5. But he can lie again. So win?

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I can't tell if the people with 'solutions' are trolling. Everything I've tried just straight up murders the thing - does he even have anything to do with the fielded door behind him? or will I find a way in there later?

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Peace of mind kills him also, every type of buff or healing magic that I have kills him physical attacks do nothing, damaging spells do nothing i'm thinking it's either bugged or every spell/scroll I have is wrong or too powerful.

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does he talk normal now?

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Peace of mind cures him but he doesn't do anything after. Just says that you cured him.

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has anyone tried Peace of mind on him?

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The proposed solutions don't work for me. He is not cured after casting blood rain around him and shocking the puddle underneath (eg shocking arrow or electric discharge). After blood rain, casting bless on the rat kills him. After blood rain, casting bless on the blood doesn't cure him. Anyone have suggestions?

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Bless kills him, Bless plus blood rain kills him, can he even be saved?

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When you shock water or blood underneath his feet then talk to him, he will say "You still don't look lost." Then you ask if he's still being sarcastic which he replies " Narrator - *He looks at you as if to say 'well, duh'."

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What would he tell you if you managed to cure him?

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