Burying the Past

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Gareth
Location Paradise Down
Suggested Level 12
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Previous Quest  N/A

Burying the Past is a Quest in Divinity: Original Sin II. We came upon Gareth in an abandoned farmhouse, hovering over the unconscious body of a White Magister. We should find out what's going on.

 

Important NPCs

 

 

Burying the Past Objectives

  1. Deal with the Silent Monks or
  2. Deal with White Magister Jonathan

Burying the Past Walkthrough

This branching quest can be started at either north of the Driftwood - Field waypoint (X380 Y274) inside of a burning house (with some dead silent monks nearby), or later on in front of a farmhouse at Paradise Downs (For the 1st branch option of the quest, you must encounter Gareth at the burning house prior to visiting Paradise Downs; else, you will automatically go down the 2nd branch option).

If you begin the quest inside the burning house, you will find White Magister Jonathan knocked out by Gareth. He will explain how he formerly knew the Magister, and opts whether to finish the deed. At this point, the quest branches on whether you convince Gareth to spare Jonathan, or to kill him right there:

1. Kill Jonathan: If you choose to kill Jonathan at the burning house, Gareth will hesitate, and you can opt finish off Jonathan yourself. If so, you will need to perform a persuasion check (or mention "..the time of timidity is over.." to bypass the check) to convince Gareth to stay in your party for later acts. The quest is 'technically finished' at this point. You will get some EXP for your troubles, alongside some randomized loot on Jonathan's body. At Paradise Downs, a new side-quest will appear that involves removing some Voidwoken animals from the farmhouse, at the behest of Gareth's parents (who are hiding behind a wagon). Doing this side quest will reward you with a unique ring known as Hannag's Ring (or you may simply pickpocket the reward, which is contained inside a supply kit).

2. Jonathan Lives: If you either started the quest at Paradise Downs instead, or spared Jonathan at burning house, you will now find Gareth outside a farmhouse burying the bodies of his parents. He will want you to kill some silent monks for revenge. These monks are inside the farmhouse and you will need to persuade the Paladins guarding the front to let you in. Conversely, if you can't or don't want to, you can go to the right of the farmhouse and Teleport inside through the hole in the roof. In order to get Gareth to stop digging you will have to open the door though. So either lockpick it or break it down.

Once inside, speak with Gareth and he will ask you to help find proof of Jonathan's participation. You can either use Spirit Vision inside the house to speak with Gareth's parents, or you can find Jonathan's Gloves laying near a tree just outside the farmhouse. After a short dialogue, you will be given the decision to persuade Gareth (Intelligence or Memory check, 30 in stat with 0 persuasions will fail) to either forgive/spare Jonathan's life or kill him. Regardless of the outcome, you can still attack and kill Jonathan later on, which may upset Gareth and prompt him to leave, assuming you tell him. Jonathan is located in the Blackpits, and is involved in another quest. Once Gareth leaves the farmhouse for the Lady Vengeance, feel free to dig up the bodies for some extra loot, and a unique dagger known as the Pride of Pryce. There will also be a supply kit hidden near the wagon which contains the aforementioned ring.

Failing the check means Gareth will make up his own mind (mercy) and will then proceed to Paradise Dawns after moving Jonathan. When convincing him of mercy, you can choose the very bottom option ("...did not save him in the swamp for him to...") to bypass the check.

Once your log has updated with "We convinced Gareth that..." (changes depending on what you did), you can safely move on in the quest.

 

Tips & Tricks

  • If you kill White Magister Jonathan for Gareth when he is standing over his unconscious body and convince him to relax on the ship, his parents won't die and will be at the family farm. Jonathan is then replaced by White Magister Kari in the Blackpits interrogating Gwydian Rince.
    • Warning! If you go to Paradise Downs before going to the house north of Driftwood, or close to it such as the Stonegarden Graveyard, you will automatically be sent down the second branch of this quest! So make sure to head north of Driftwood first to get the first branch of this quest! 
  • Jonathan will drop loot scaled to his level whether or not you kill him at the burning building, or at the Blackpits. Thus, having him killed at the burning house will net you high level gear quite early on within act 2.
  • Outside the house with Gareth and Jonathan, beside the woodpile under the canopy, you can discover a mound, with high enough lucky charm,  containing a sack of loot.
  • For the "Iniquity Forgiven" achievement you must have 4 Persuasion and tell Gareth to stay his weapon, then look in his eyes. This achievement is awarded to all players and you cannot get this achievement in the same playthrough as the "Furious Rebuke" achievement but you can reload to get them both. If doing this, you can also kill Jonathan later on without any repercussions.   
  • For the "Furious Rebuke" achievement you must encourage Gareth to finish the deed, tell him that the time for timidity has passed and slay Jonathan yourself, then tell him you did what had to be done and fail the persuasion check. This achievement is awarded to only the person speaking to Gareth.
  • For the "Furious Rebuke" achievement, you may need to agree to kill Jonathan and bring back proof before you are awarded the achievement. One option is to agree to the murder and then just go and steal the ring from him. You can teleport the guard watching him far away while Jonathan is executing the seeker and then do a quick pick-pocket.
  • For the Pride of Pryce, note that it will only spawn for the 2nd branch. It does not spawn in the 1st branch at all, for some reason.
  • It is possible to 'save' Gareth's parents without killing Jonathan at the burning house. I went to the burning house and found it empty. I later teleported down to the Black Pits from the graveyard (to the burning house with magisters outside) and cleared the area, including killing Jonathan, before tracking 'backwards' towards Gareth's parents. It was filled with voidwoken - killing them then talking to Gareth's parents behind the wagon gave Hannag's ring as a quest reward.
      

 

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    • Anonymous

      I know most likely no one will see this, but I just wanted to express my utter rage at the poor design of this questline. I've played this game multiple times and this was the first time I bothered to search this questline up, and only now did I find out there was an alternate way to do it. Why the developers couldn't find a better way to introduce this quest to players I will never know. What a great way to limit player choice in a game that's supposed to be embracing it.

      • Anonymous

        Is it possible to me to have Gareth available before final battle? Cause he always leave after killing Alexander on act 3....i killed Jonathan myself on act 2 btw

        • Anonymous

          I'm not good at reading the air in the room.
          I walked up to Gareth, as a Lizard, and said "Hey, you need help digging? I have a knack for it"
          I
          I felt ****ing awful afterwards. I'm so sorry, Gareth.

          • Anonymous

            Just kill Gareth in Act 1 for lvl 9 legendaries from the well and never experience this nightmare of a quest, true gigachad route.

            • Anonymous

              This quest branch toward the second option as soon as you enter the paladin camp. I rushed to talk to Gareth at level 9, but I did a detour to talk to the paladins and he wasn't there. He only appeared when I loaded a save just before entering the camp.

              • Anonymous

                With the hero tag you can convince him to let go of his rage and he'll instantly go to the lady vengeance.

                • Anonymous

                  Whether or not you find Gareth at the abandoned house depends on a timer that starts ticking when you leave The Lady Vengeance for the first time, if you take too long to get there then you won't find Gareth in said house, even if you stop by the house before reaching his home.

                  • Anonymous

                    This quest is messed up. I approach his parents house and I see him first time there digging his parents grave. I agree to find murderer. I found gloves and I follow the trail. Later on I think I killed the guy. After some time I go back to Gareth and he still digging and don't want to talk with me. Saying those silent monks killed his parents. So I need to enter there. I dispatch paladins guarding house with pesuasion. I enter and Gareth wants to kill them all. Im like no dude, wtf, I got the guy who did this. I got his gloves and all but theres no such option to tell him about it. So I manage to calm him down and he appologized and went back to ship.

                    And now I reading I could prevent his parents die? How, where, when? There was attack of voidwoken there? When? Messed up.

                    • Anonymous

                      I in the first place completed all the quests in the Blackpits area before ever entering Paradise Downs, and met lots of bugs in this quest:
                      1. Gareth was nowhere to find. I checked every place possible.
                      2. Only when I broke into the farmhouse in Paradise Downs, Gareth appeared from nowhere (maybe he truely masters the arts of void).
                      3. Then I chose to kill Jonathan in the dialogue with Gareth, but J was already killed during the fight rescuing Hannag's apprentice. AND THE QUEST PERMANENTLY STUCK HERE, AT THE REQUEST TO KILL GODDAMN JONATHAN.
                      *I have never seen the scene of G and J meeting, or G digging in front of the house. The whole quest is a mess.

                      • Anonymous

                        !!!WARNING!!!
                        This quest determines how Gareth will interact with you in Act 3, Act 4 and end game.
                        For the best path, Gareth will lead your crew on Lady Vengeance and pray for your victory before the final battle.
                        For the worst path, Gareth will become a Silent Monk and fight you in end game.

                        For the best path:
                        1. Convince him to kill Jonathan
                        2. Defend Gareth's parent from Voidwokens
                        3. Talk Gareth down when confronting Magisters in Act 4.

                        For the worst path:
                        1. Convince him to spare Jonathan
                        2. Help Gareth to take revenge on Jonathan
                        3. Help Gareth defeat Magisters in Act 4

                        The best path will grant you about +70000 more XP in a grand total, but you won't get a +1 Thievery unique dagger. Your choice.

                        • Anonymous

                          I did this quest both ways. In the option where I find Gareth in the burning house & convince him to kill Jonathan I had the option later on in the Nameless Island to side with him against Alexandar, BUT, then he's all sullen and brooding on the LV and, at the last fight, one of the big bosses - not sure who did it - Lucian or Vredeman, brings him into the fight against me! - he got owned pretty fast but still, what was he doing there? Isbeil, Kemm, etc. were revived from dead, but Gareth was still on the ship, very much alive and supposedly on our side, when I went into the cathedral...

                          In the other version where I find him burying his parents, I had picked up Jonathan's gloves before I talked to him, maybe that's why, when I went into the house he rushed in behind me and demanded that I kill the silent monks. In the first option I agreed to 'take care of the monks' and then he rifles the house to find evidence who gave the order, doesn't offer any other dialog options to give him the gloves as proof or tell him that his parents ghosts told me it was Jonathan. In the option where I persuade him not to kill the monks I got something like 6K xp and he left for LV (where he's tormented by sorrow & demons and can't talk to me he says).

                          • Anonymous

                            The encounter with Gareth and Jonathon is not on a timer, it gets triggered if you go anywhere close to the house, and will disappear if you leave the area without doing the encounter.

                            • Anonymous

                              is there a mod that allows you to save gareth's parents after having visited stonegarden? i really want them to live :(

                              • Anonymous

                                I stole Jonathan's ring while he was unconscious at the burning house and convince Gareth to let him live. Afterwards in the farmhouse, once i had kill the monks and got the instruction to find and kill Jonathan, i just gave the ring to Gareth without even leaving the house. The quest ended in that moment.

                                I see no indication the game recognizes that Jonathan is still alive. Not sure if this was intended to be an option but i guess it works. The quest shows now as closed.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Location of Jonathan's Gloves: (X:692, Y:277)

                                  The gloves can be difficult to see. On PC you can hold the "Alt" key to better view items on screen. (I'm assuming there's a way to do this on consoles too.) Change the mini-map so north is facing the top. Head directly to the east of Gareth's family farmhouse. The gloves are located southeast of the tree, where the fence ends. They are in between the fenced and the small rocky bluff. To be clear to the point of over-clarifying, the tree is the nearest tree to the farmhouse that is both south and east of it.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Does going anywhere near the stonegarden waypoint make this quest fall into the "Jonathan Lives" branch? I didn't even reach paradise downs and i couldn't find gareth and jonathan at the burning house lol.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Pro-tip: for an even more twisted scenario...

                                      1. dig up the bodies of Gareth’s parents
                                      2. Teleport them in front of the paladin guards & door
                                      3. Mass corpse explosion ofc. (Add fire traps if needed)
                                      4. Sit back and enjoy watching Gareth witness his family’s recently murdered bodies used as human explosive, killing the paladins and simultaneously destroying the door.
                                      6. Profit???

                                      Both gareth AND his parents get some sense of revenge this way. Win win. Disregard whatever their ghosts say in the house, they don’t know what they really want.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        > kill jonathan then persuade gareth to stay = 13.450xp
                                        > slay voidwoken attack on gareth's parents house = 16.200xp 2.700xp each
                                        > 2.700xp for 'infestation' quest
                                        > 13.(and something)xp for quest after house cleared

                                        > spare jonathan
                                        > 2 guards in front of parents house = 10.800xp 5.400xp each
                                        > 2.700xp letting him slay at least one silent monks (killing them yourself only gives 25xp each, i think)
                                        > 8.075xp persuade him to not seek revenge

                                        i didn't bother to check any further since killing jonathan gives far more xp, but sparing him gives you the +1 thievery dagger and jonathan's gloves, your pick

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Save beforehand and speedrun this quest all the way through, or Gareth may break during your Honour run.

                                          He may inexplicably be obsessed with finding a nonexistant thief after you clear the paladins/get through the door to the family home.

                                          Currently no fixes found for this (tried actually pickpocketing, teleporting inside, etc.), will only poobrain or fight to the death.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            in both my playthoughs, Gareth and the KO magister aren't in the burning house
                                            I'm guessing there's some kind of timer, because in both games I explored the western part of the island and the cemetary before heading north of Driftwood

                                            • Anonymous

                                              I helped Gareth clear the way into the house due to failing the persuade skill check, killing both Paladins in the procedure.

                                              Just to make Gareth forgive and forget about Jonathan with the following persuade. Not sure if that was a worthwhile trade.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                I didn't see Gareth until the end of act 2 and wasn't able to talk to him about Johnathan. Found Gareth burying his parents on their farm.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  You can also use Constitution to persuade Gareth not to follow up on his plans of revenge. I got this option doing the following: I met him the first time, tried to persuade him not to kill Jonathan but failed the check, then met him again some time later while burying his parents, and won the check due to re-spec

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    I've got this glitch where I've killed the Silent Monks and the next part of the quest says return to Gareth, but the game won't let me speak with him. He wonders about seemingly randomly around his parents farm and sometimes even further, saying "You can't hide forever. They can't have gone far. Somethings afoot, checking it out. Come out, come out wherever you are."
                                                    I have no idea what to do about it, I've done pretty much everything left to do at reapers coast, including killing Jonathan in the blackpits, but he's still stuck in this glitch so I can't complete the quest or take him on The Lady Vengeance to Arx.
                                                    Pretty Annoying.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      For the Furious Rebuke achievement, I can confirm that the procedure is to kill Jonathan yourself, then fail one of the two [Strength] persuasion checks. You will NOT gain the achievement if your Persuasion skill is too high, so it is best to let a character with no Persuasion do the deed. I got the achievement the moment I failed this check, and i did not need visit Gareth's family farm.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        As of today, I figured it out. Furious Rebuke achievement is earned by getting Gareth to leave Jonathan alone for now and he has to contemplate things over. After this, go to Gareths family farm house and share his anger for vengeance, gain access to the house and Gareth will come in and talk to you, don’t stand in his way and he will kill the silent monks. Give him Jonathan’s gloves and he will feel guilty for letting him leave the burning house. Agree to kill Jonathan for him and get his ring. Take the ring back to Gareth and you will get the achievement.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Weird and buggy quest. Just tried repeatedly to get the "Iniquity Forgiven: Set Gareth on a path of reconciliation" achievement in the shack with Gareth and Jonathan following the exact method above ("stay his weapon", "look in his eyes") but it wouldn't trigger. Eventually gave up and went with the more in-character route for this rather vindictive Red Prince playthrough (killing Jonathan, telling Gareth to cool off on the Lady Vengeance and winning the persuasion check), and then suddenly I get the "Iniquity Forgiven" achievement, despite if anything following a "Furious Rebuke" path. Kind of hard to reconcile or forgive iniquities when the dude's dead, I'd have thought!

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            This quest is utter nonsense and very buggy. There are so many points on the quest that completely will screw you over and not able to finish the quest

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              I killed Jonathan but the stupid quest is stuck at "Return to Gareth". I have Jonathan's ring, but talking to Gareth does nothing, he just keeps digging. Yay buggy quests!

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                These two achievements aren't available on console, it should really be made clear on this page. I spent a good half an hour trying different dialogue options and searching the Internet.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  You don't need to pass the persuasion check to convince him to let Jonathan live. During that dialogue you have 4 options towards the end of it, the first 3 being persuasion checks (Memory, Memory and Intelligence) while the last option goes something along the lines of you not wanting gareth to go down that path and you didn't save him to become like that etc. I went with that and he took Jonathan somewhere else; most importantly he doesn't kill him.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    You can still find garreth in the burning home if you haven't gone anywhere near Paradise Downs area (not sure how near, probably just revealing the parents' house in map will kill them). I reloaded a save before I went to do ryker's quest and have pretty much cleared driftwood, the area west of it, plus most of stonegarden and cloisterwood and still found garreth in the burning house.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      so if you want to save the parents you have to go to 1. the shack. first thing you do after you got out lady vengence. X385 Y274. 2. kill the white magistrate, and persuade gareth to wait in lady vengence 3. go to paradise downs X635 Y260. here you will see his parents cowering. talk to them to activate quest infestation and kill the voidwokens. which of course is very hard since you will probably only be level 9 or 10. at this point you can just go back and do other quest till you're strong enough. and done. you save his parents.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Sadly I was unable to find Gareth at the burning house even though I reloaded to before I ever went to his farm.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          This is the kinda bull*****How can you make this quest in time without using a guide? Who would run up that way first thing?

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            13500xp + 2700 x 6 (16200xp) = if you find gareth with the magister (go to that burning house the soonest possible), help him to kill that one, convince him to go calm on the boat, go to parent's house, kill 6 voidwoken (quest not bugged anymore for DE), and talk back to parent for big xp reward + hannag's bow + some goods ! : D it's the best gain.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              If you want to keep his parents alive you should go straight towards where Gareth is standing over Jonathan ASAP when entering the act. I thought I was being careful but I went up the dwarf eagle tower in the graveyard and it was high enough that it gave me vision of his parent's house and triggered their death.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                I've just tested out, its not likely a timed thing - rather it depends on the map sequence you go for. If you go for X385 Y274 first, then you will see Gareth and Jonathon there. Otherwise, if you trigger the farm first, then Gareth's death is certain. Time, Hannag, Apprentice quest trigger sequence does not matter. I got the Apprentice quest, went for the Apprentice House, realise Gareth's parents are dead while traveling, then backtracked a little bit - in the same session before i go for the Grave and Apprentice House, and apprently I did find Jonanthon and Gareth there.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Rather sucks you can't try saving these silent monks like you do for Natalie Bromhead (from the quest "A Danger to Herself and Others") The doctor who you help save Natalie with, Gregorius Swann, is literally just up the hill-- I did her quest right before finding them. Based on the dialogue with the silent monks ("Did she say 'save me'?" and Donna crying a single tear) it seems like maybe the developers were edging in the direction of letting you do that and save them, with still having a choice to kill them, but then didn't follow through and so you can only leave them or kill them. Sucks because I'm RPing a Hero and I know my character would have run up the hill and tried to get the Dr to help save them if it was possible. (I tried but there's no dialogue options for it)

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    NorthEast, I believe, right at the point where there is fire starting to fall in the field outside of Gareth's Family Farmhouse and you instantly gain a permanent decay status (while in the area), there is a house seemingly broken in half from whatever earthquake Hannag released. In the second half hanging on the side of the cliff (the first half has an abandoned chest, by the way), there is a desk. In the desk is a note from a Farmer. If you get and read that note, it speaks about a stolen Elven rain talisman and where it is hidden. The game will alert you to "Secret Unlocked." The place this talisman is hidden is not far away, but is guarded by 3 level 14 "undead" elves and two "sentient meteor storms(?)." Must be a hell of a talisman; I could not get it. The enemies do not appear until you make your way toward the chest. There is also a buried chest in the field next to the farmhouse; nothing great in it, though.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      This quest confuses the hell out of me....I ran into Gareth standing over Jonathan by the Witch's House in a "shack." I was able to persuade him to spare Jonathan and he "took him somewhere safe." You get "Iniquity Forgiven" at this point too. Realizing something must be out of order, I made a straight line for Gareth's Family Farmhouse and found Gareth burying his parents, paladins guarding the door, and level 1 silent monks inside. Since I talked Gareth out of revenge, killing the monks only grants 25xp and they are level 1. Really, I just wanted to put them out of their misery at this point. Seems I missed a ****ton of stuff including a bunch of exp. The monsters to even get to Gareth's house (I was level 10) were insane too! I had to pull the Paladin Checkpoint into the Scarecrow fight up by where I found Gareth. I had the deer help me with the voidwoken deer, and I had to pull Tarquin in to the Prince's assassins close to Gareth's Family Farm house. Everything, otherwise, one and two shot me on Tactician and I have a fair share of epic and legendary gear (level 7 Lucky Charm helps) and all skills (Thievery 7 and bartering 8 helps). I think I'm not the only one confused about the logical and orderly progression of this quest or what the heck is going on when you do it out of order. If the area is going to be open, do not make the quest have some time-based requirements; make it linear.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        I just came across Gareth standing over Jonathan and this is the first time I ran into Gareth on the Coast. I guess his parents are dead by noe and I was supposed to go somewhere else first? If these are going to be timed or ordered, they need to make those part more linear.... geez. I have no clue what is going on or what quest this is or why Gareth is here. I was surprised to find him in a shack while trying to take Peeper, apparently inordinately far, to his father.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          They weren't even at the first location for me? I just came across Gareth burying his parents and convinced him to not take revenge (I didn't even know who?) and that was it. Haven't even seen Jonathan and have no idea how I was supposed to save his parents...

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            Is it safe to assume that if we let Jonathan die during this quest that he won't appear in front of Gwydian when we get to the blackpits?

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              For anyone who wants to know, the xp from killing the voidwoken when saving Gareths parents is 2700 per creature including the deer. 2700 * 6 voidwoken = 16200 XP Does anyone know the optimal path for xp? Is it saving or killing Jonathan. To me it seems like you might be getting more xp if you let Jonathan live but IDK.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Fck, I've read the tips&tricks as if his parents live if you spare Johnathan and realized that it's the opposite too late >_< Damn quest.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  saw the burning house and gareth,but,did nothing as i was under leveled , later went to the farm , talked to gareth told him i share his thrust for revenge , went inside the house killed the monks and got 13k exp , after convinced gareth to let go as his mother wanted, got another 8k .

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    For Tips & Tricks, You can interact with Gareth's parents and they actually give you a quest called "Infestation"

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      To complete one of the following achievements Iniquity Forgiven or Furious Rebuke, You need to walk directly to the burning house in the Northern part of they grain fields X380 Y274. Here you will find Gareth standing near the unconscious White Magister Jonathan.

                                                                                                      Need to have persuasion 4 to persuade him to spare or kill Jonathan

                                                                                                      To get Iniquity Forgiven ( Unlock for the player that talks to Gareth), Choose:
                                                                                                      Option 1: Tell Gareth to stay his weapon. Jonathan will surely reward his mercy.
                                                                                                      Option 2: Look in his eyes. He is guiding you to divinity. It's his turn to listen to you.

                                                                                                      To get Furious Rebuke achievement (Unlock for all players ), Choose
                                                                                                      Option 2: Encourage Gareth to finish the deed. Jonathan is a Magister. He must die.
                                                                                                      Option 1: The time for timidity has passed. Slay Jonathan yourself.
                                                                                                      Option 3: You did what had to be done, and he knows it. Tell Gareth to cool off at the Lady Vengenace

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        You can dig up his father's grave (Left side) and it gives a dagger that gives +1 thievery other grave (right side) has the last letter gareth sent his mom

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          I was given the option to convince him to abandon his revenge with the [Hero] tag. I instantly received 8k xp.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            i got a bit stuck here couldn't pass dialoge checks and Gareth and both guards says -end- no other option.
                                                                                                            after doing some quest and pass there again i've tryed to unlock the door with lockpick (speak to a guard to change his line of sight and lockpick with other char from behind) after opening the door both guards go away and Gareth comes into the house.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              If you kill White Magister Jonathan for Gareth when he is standing over his unconscious and convince him to relax on the ship his parents won't die and will be at the family farm. You cannot interact with them and they cower behind a cart. Jonathan is than replaced by White Magister Kari in the blackpits interrogating Gwydian Rince.

                                                                                                              ....this happened to me. But how can I close the quest then?

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                Upon entering the house with the monks, Gareth will rush in and ask why you haven't killed them yet. You can convince him here with a persuasion check (same checks are available as when speaking to him outside). If you pass the check, the quest will be over.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  It seems if you wait too long to start this quest, Gareth will be burying his parents at the farmhouse. If you go directly to the burning house from the Hen house / Gallows area shortly after arriving, then you can start the quest there.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    Are there any pros and cons to killing the silent monks inside the farmhouse? There is nothing mentioned about this. To convince the paladins to allow you to enter, it requires either one of two Wits checks or a Constitution / Memory / Intelligence persuasion check, depending on your dialogue choices.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      If you speak to Gareth at his family farm first when he is burying his parents, you can simply pass a persuasion check to finish the quest and receive 8075 XP. This guide makes no mention of such a simple ending.

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        I can't do anything any more. I have Jonathan's ring and gloves but Gareth just keep a digging and the guards tell me to go away. What am I missing? Oh, and if I kill the guards Gareth accuses me of the murder...havent tried killing the guards while I have the gloves though...do I have to kill them?

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          I wandered up quite far north to the burning house before visiting Driftwood. I saw Gareth in there speaking to someone but didn't go near or interact. After visiting Meistr Siva in Driftwood, I went back to the house and no one is there. I feel like I missed something.

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            For me, I didn’t have Spirit Vision, but high persuasion. I killed Jonathan and took his ring. But, weirdly he still had his items(gloves) scattered about on the way to Blackpit. I told Gareth to cool it and go back to the ship. I met his parents I couldn’t interact with them until I completed the blackout quests. They then told me to clear out voidwoken. But, now the guest is still open like Jonathan is still alive?

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              You can interact with Gareth's parent by killing Jonathan in the burning house near Driftwood Filed and select You understand Gareth's felling, where you might need to convince him later on since he's so upset about your action(I didn't up to that part yet). When you arrive at Gareth's home, you will find his parent is hiding behind a cart outside of the house, and you can talk to them and agree to help them clear up the voidwokens. Killed all voidwokens in the house, and report to them, you will receive a pouch that belonged to Hannag, and they will return to their house. You can talk to them inside the house for few dialogs. (better to clean up the surface since they don't have any magic armor to resist the poison or whatever left on the ground)
                                                                                                                              The pouch included few items(a scroll and a grenade in my case, I guess they're randomly generated) and a unique ring of Hannag, which worth 1500 gold without any special stat. Not sure if there are any new dialogs since I already met Hannag and no new options unlocked at this moment. Killing Jonathan will unlock the Steam achievement for set Gareth on a path of vengeance immediately

                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                Tips & Tricks: fix the part with the parents. You can Interact with them, at least eventually, they will ask you to clear the house of the voidwoken, will reward with a pouch with items that belonged to Hannag. Probably unlocks new dialog for Hannag when you first meet her.

                                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                  Many ppl talk about a bug If you help Gareth in his revenge against Jonathan, for the death of his parents . Eventually Malady tell you that you must find Gareth before leaving reaper's coast to the Nameless island and you can't find him anywhere. It's not a Bug at all it's the story: you convince Gareth pursuing revenge, so you will find him later in the nameless island, the next act, since he leave before you for his revenge against the order.

                                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                    If you have the hero tag and you have a wits check where the quest will complete right away he'll stop digging and giving the party 8075 exp

                                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                      My dialogue is the same i can do anything to make him stop digging. I killed jonathan have the ring AND the gloves but still, i cant do nothing.

                                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                        A pair of gloves can be found a bit further down the road belonging to the killer of Gareth's family, upon giving him the gloves of the killer, he will request you to find and kill Jonathan (The Killer) and he can be found in the black pits with an elf strung up, who is connected to another quest

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