Business Rivals

Location Cloisterwood
Suggested Level 10+
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Business Rivals is a Quest in Divinity: Original Sin II. Short description goes here.



Important NPCs



Business Rivals Objectives

  1. Help Marg get rid of Grog, or get rid of Marg 


Business Rivals Walkthrough


Grog the Troll and Marg the Troll have a competing business, both want you to kill the other. But be very careful, both are formidable enemies that can single strike some of your weaker characters. Before you fight the trolls, make sure you are prepared and game saved.

You can pass the persuasion check to ask Gorg to lower the bridge tolls. He will allow you to pass with 4997 gold.

If you chose to kill Grog for Marg, after Grog's death Marg will choose to implement Grog's business tactics and charge 15000 gold to cross in the future.

 If you chose to kill Marg, upon returning to him Grog will give you a dialog option to increase the reward, but choosing this option yields no real results. He will give a small reward and grant the main speaking character the skill Reactive Armour.

Tips & Tricks

  • Applying "burning" to Grog and "poisoned" to Marg removes their troll blood regeneration effect. This is hinted at in the "T is for Trolls" book found in-game throughout Driftwood.
  • Both Grog the Troll and Marg the Troll are immune to Knocked Down, Petrified, Charmed status effects.
  • If you don't kill any of the trolls, Grog the Troll will block the log bridge to Arx and the only toll he'll want is BLOOD.
  • Killing Grog gives 38000 Experience and has chance to drop legendary item.

    • 25 Jun 2019 06:44  

      An anonymous poster from over a year ago suggested using lava on Grog, and I can confirm the insta-death still works. Use the Poly Terrain Transmutation skill to get the Lava near Hannag and the magisters near the bridge. Initially, I began the fight after dropping it below him, and it only did tick damage like burning. Halfway through the fight, he managed to walk while charmed, and I had to remove the lava surface back to his position — to my surprise, instadeath! Looks like you need to transmute the lava AFTER initiating the fight, otherwise the only thing you might instakill is yourself!

      • Anonymous

        07 May 2019 17:32  

        I bugged this quest, here's what I did: 1. I spoke to Grog and decided to kill Marg. 2. Going to Marg and said that Grog wants him dead and I decided to stick with Marg and accept to kill Grog. 3. Still in conversation with Marg and managed to tell him my Voidwoken battle story (tell him I killed that big wolf Voidwoken in Driftwood). 4. So Marg are happy about my story and he decided to price the toll for only 1 gold and I happily accept it! 5. I exit the conversation and going to kill Grog. 6. Grog is dead! Going back to Marg and ... I don't have any choices because I succeeded paying the toll! 7. This quest is stuck because I can't tell Marg that I killed Grog. 8. Unless ... I kill Marg too, which I don't want to! Damn!!

        • Anonymous

          10 Feb 2019 08:14  

          Use the good ol' Undead nuke method for free money (Living on the Edge + Shackles of Pain + Giant Healing Pots). Fane's time warp let me kill Grog before his next turn.

          • Anonymous

            11 Jan 2019 21:57  

            Easy fights. Grab cooking pots from the ship and other places and simply line them up on the bridge. They can't cross and doesn't seem to have any blink ability. Just shoot them to death while they are stuck helplessly on the other side.

            • Anonymous

              21 Dec 2018 08:36  

              Ez killed them at lv10 with 2 characters, just get escapist with each character having their own pyramid. Stun them 1st then atk but make sure you have enough ap to flee then just teleport back in with pyramid. Do it with both characters and just repeat til the troll is dead.

              • Anonymous

                31 Oct 2018 19:00  

                Killed Marg with one of those poison flowers and tagged him last second to get XP. Then talked to Grog and he went to Mary's bridge and I put an oil barrel on the poison flower near Grog and used a fire bomb near him but didn't hit him with it, then tagged him last second too. Easy to and loot.

                • Anonymous

                  24 Oct 2018 09:55  

                  You can attack the troll you finished quest for as they walk over to new bridge, they will have increased in level by a bit but if you can stunlock them and keep them afflicted so they can't use their troll blood then you can easily take them on. Got a lvl 18 ring, which is a huge boost as a level 14.

                  • Anonymous

                    03 Oct 2018 09:38  

                    Opened up with a quick freeze lock, then kept him permalocked using a rotation of electricity stun, silence + atrophy, and charm, all while keeping him aflame with Necrofire. Took me 20 minutes to drop him but very happy with result: got a nice level 18 legendary ring that gives 185 magic armor, and my party is only level 11. Big advantage, having a high level item like this with a mid-level party. Can't recommend Necrofire enough for this fight - having a Necrofire Champion Incarnate fully buffed really trivializes the fight if you can keep him locked down.

                    • Anonymous

                      25 Sep 2018 21:33  

                      I polymorphed a lava patch under Marg and it healed him for the sum total of his health every tick. He's immune to fire damage. Poison kills him. The hungry flower made short work of him.

                      • Anonymous

                        21 Jul 2018 15:38  

                        Teleport the green noxious blub from further up the path near driftwood onto Marg's bridge and watch it slowly remove his health. When it gets down to about 500, have a conversation with him and tell him its time for fisticuffs. Then watch has he dies from the poison whilst moving into position to attack you. Shortest fight in history.

                        • Anonymous

                          20 Jul 2018 23:54  

                          Killed em both. Pretty good rings as drops. The trick is to stun lock them and keep either poison or burning on depending on which troll it is.

                          • Anonymous

                            03 Jun 2018 12:16  

                            Grog is pretty easy to kill. Just use Air spells to stun him and use Cripple/Atrophy/Blind so he has trouble fighting back.

                            • Anonymous

                              03 Jun 2018 12:12  

                              If you're having problems turning in the quest to Marg after killing Grog. If you are approaching Marg's bridge from the direction of Cloisterwood, cross it (if possible). Move away and approach from the other side. This should trigger Marg to speak with you and you will be able to tell him that Grog is dead.

                              • Anonymous

                                02 May 2018 16:47  

                                Supreme cheese way to kill Grog. All you need it the polymorph ability to switch surfaces. Go to where Hannag is (Cloisterwood), on the outside wall there is lava, switch this surface with any empty surface (or any surface) towards the direction of Grog. Do this 3-4 times landing the last surface switch where Grog paces and he will instantly die. More cheese: Before hitting Grog with the lava (so one surface switch prior to the last), initiate combat with the surface switcher (high initiative helps) and port the surface onto Grog (this will get the XP points for the kill). de

                                • Anonymous

                                  07 Mar 2018 02:31  

                                  When you do the persuasion and you have the Soldier trait, choose it. He'll be happy with the advice you give him and charge you 1 gold to cross the bridge.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    01 Mar 2018 16:55  

                                    How to cheese grog, there is a green noxious bulb to the right of the bridge. Have someone with the teleport skill to teleport the bulb to grog's location. After grog is in the poison cloud throw a firebomb grenade at a distance to not agro grog. Laugh as grog repeatedly gets damaged by necrofire and explosions from the gas clouds.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      09 Feb 2018 18:15  

                                      I talked t grog, failed persuasion, then got quest to kill marg. Went to marg, talked to him immediately mentioned grog wanted him dead. then agreed grog should be the one to go, continued conversation asking bout the trolls day, then chose the option to nod and move past him, and he stopped me, i asked him to lower the price, then told him about the voidwoken fight to escape fort joy. he let me cross for 1 gold.
                                      Didnt have to kill either troll.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        26 Jan 2018 21:53  

                                        I have killed Marg, and when i will talk do Grog not have change, only options of attack him or tell marg has offer the same.
                                        Like if a don't have killed marg. Quest Bug

                                        • Anonymous

                                          03 Jan 2018 02:10  

                                          So here is the way to pay only 3 Gold for entry.

                                          1. Talk with grog, get quest to kill marg
                                          2. talk with marg, tell him about the quest. Leave with the remark to kill the real one
                                          3. go to grog. TALK with him first and tell him about margs regards. Kill him.
                                          4. go to marg tell him about grog's death and pay the reduced fee of 3 gold with the condition to tell about voidwalken stories.

                                          How to kill grog at lvl 9-10 (what I did)
                                          He is not immune to charmed and stunned. Grog does not have magical armor. Begin with charmed arrow or respective skill in summoning.
                                          reduce his physical armor, burn everything (fire arrow/necrofire with cursed potion flasks if you have those)
                                          from there on either have many chars with shocking skills or weapons with high chance to stun. continue to stun and burn him.
                                          about 10-15minutes later he should be dead.
                                          (a great way to keep burning him is to have a summoner with totems/incarnate and make them fire elemental.

                                          this way he is stunned throughout the match and you can keep damaging him until he is done.
                                          Enjoy being awesome! :)

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