Gratiana | Divinity Original Sin 2 Wiki

So who else smashed the soul jar in the cave without realising it was hers

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Gratiana, the undead, will attack you if you take off your mask as fane.

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Couple of things I noticed:

-Unlike Braccus’ necromancers, she asks you to give her her soul jar instead of smashing it. The only person who does this is Capt. Zapor and his dialogue indicates that he doesn’t intend to die. This makes me think that she doesn’t really want release and instead has other plans. Hopefully those plans include helping people but I found it a little suspicious that she wouldn’t just be happy to finally pass on after all this time.

-Gareth notes that she was disappointed in him when he returned empty-handed, which is a little odd considering that he was risking his life for his people after she encouraged him to find the wands. Everyone else was just happy to have him back. It’s possible that by sending him to look for wands she was hoping he’d find the vault and therefore her jar, and was ultimately helping the seekers out of self-interest rather than compassion.

-She is only forthcoming about her background upon receiving the jar. Before that she refuses to tell you anything and shows a total lack of transparency when questioned, which isn’t really what you’d expect of someone who claims to be repenting for their actions.

Also, I believe I’ve found a bug with the quest. If you absorb her soul in front of her, she’ll die and you’ll get 2100 XP + the items you can loot from her. However, you’ll still have an empty soul jar in your inventory. If you drop this jar on the ground and smash it, you’ll also get 4200 XP as though you smashed it in the first place. The already completed quest will then update and show that you both absorbed her soul and smashed the jar.

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I love just how many overly-verbose paragraphs there are in the discussion section for this character. All for the argument of freeing her or not... do what you want, don't let some flowery words try and convince you otherwise. If your gut says to believe her, then do so. If not, then don't. Nobody has any right to tell you how you should feel about the repentance of a fictional character, nor do they have any right to say you are "emotionally immature" for choosing to damn her soul. I'm just putting this here for anyone who reads this in the future, just like I did.

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the pretending to give it to her and smashing it on the ground route is pretty cruel

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If you have access to teleportation (from gawin's quest or otherwise) you can just teleport her into the shriekers when you progress the Seekers to the abandoned camp

Seekers didn't aggro me when I TP'd her, likely cuz she isn't in direct sight when she takes damage. Shriekers kill her before she has any chance to aggro as well.
Easy way to get her stuff, just remember to buy her skillbooks first as only certain drops are guaranteed, like her ring Astarte's Tears. She'll only drop a couple of her skillbooks on death. Even if you run out of wand charges you can use Braccus's helmet.

Rinse and repeat for any others you wanna get rid of before committing to fighting Alexander, since everyone else dies in the transition to act 2 anyway, and you don't have a good way to loot them on the Lady Vengeance.

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"Give me back my soul, where you have seen me commit countless atrocities and feign sorrow, you insolent pup!"
*Your free trial of existence has ended*

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To get the most loot and xp from her, first talk to her with one character from outside the water, choose the option to hand out the jar and drop it. Stop right before the "end" dialogue choice and go to another character that has teleportation to drop Gratiana into the water. You'll lose a few attitude points. Now sneak and pickpocket all you can off her and then go back to the first character and click end for her immediate death and even more loot on her body.

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Gratiana is the example of what RPG NPC should be. She is a complex character with a complex background. She is, as any human being, only a shade of grey, there is no black nor white. Here are tips i gathered about the character: 1) She claims that Amadia wants her soul back. When you drop her jar on the ground before her... She is shocked, and say "No! no, no, no ! Amadia, please, forgive me !". Meaning, at least, she is honest: she really considers Amadia wants her soul back, and it may even be true. 2) When you explore the feelings of the different souls in the jars... The 3 necromancers express frustration, hatred, anger and terror after they're punished by Braccus. Even though Gratiana was arguably the most wretched of them all, her soul is only weighted by deep, deep sadness. The narrator wonders if she regrets her life of leacherous luxury, or her actions. I believe that if she was regretting her ancient life, she would demonstrate the same kind of feelings as the necromancers: frustration, anger, terror, and such. I doesn't sit right for me that you only feel desperate sadness if she was only regretting her luxurious life. 3) In the vision you have of Gratiana at the time of Braccus, her vile actions are shown. She is a terrible monster. The worst of them all. But, at the end of the vision, it is said that she saw a weeping face, and that she reached out as to comfort it. But Braccus didn't allow that, and took her back, cursing her in the swamps. This weeping face is, no doubt about it, the stone face of Amadia that is in the Sanctuary. What we can say is: it's true something changed when she met Amadia. Something deep and important enough to make Braccus take radical actions towards her. At the end of day, i believe Gratiana never was and will never be a nice person. But i believe her regret is sincere, as is her devotion to Amadia, and her desire to lend her hand to the Seekers and others who are suffering. She is a ***** at times when things don't go as she pleases. But i believe Larian worked hard on their characters. It would make no sense for a character to change completely. She was an horrible wretch and even now, she is not nice. She has a ****ty temper and doesn't see harsh words and insults as being a problem. But on the other hand, she is not the wretched murderer she once was, either. The character didn't change, but evolved drastically. I believe nobody can change, but people can evolve. As such, i believe her redemption is real.

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Gratiana is the example of what RPG NPC should be. She is a complex character with a complex background. She is, as any human being, only a shade of grey, there is no black nor white. Here are tips i gathered about the character: 1) She claims that Amadia wants her soul back. When you drop her jar on the ground before her... She is shocked, and say "No! no, no, no ! Amadia, please, forgive me !". Meaning, at least, she is honest: she really considers Amadia wants her soul back, and it may even be true. 2) When you explore the feelings of the different souls in the jars... The 3 necromancers express frustration, hatred, anger and terror after they're punished by Braccus. Even though Gratiana was arguably the most wretched of them all, her soul is only weighted by deep, deep sadness. The narrator wonders if she regrets her life of leacherous luxury, or her actions. I believe that if she was regretting her ancient life, she would demonstrate the same kind of feelings as the necromancers: frustration, anger, terror, and such. I doesn't sit right for me that you only feel desperate sadness if she was only regretting her luxurious life. 3) In the vision you have of Gratiana at the time of Braccus, her vile actions are shown. She is a terrible monster. The worst of them all. But, at the end of the vision, it is said that she saw a weeping face, and that she reached out as to comfort it. But Braccus didn't allow that, and took her back, cursing her in the swamps. This weeping face is, no doubt about it, the stone face of Amadia that is in the Sanctuary. What we can say is: it's true something changed when she met Amadia. Something deep and important enough to make Braccus take radical actions towards her. At the end of day, i believe Gratiana never was and will never be a nice person. But i believe her regret is sincere, as is her devotion to Amadia, and her desire to lend her hand to the Seekers and others who are suffering. She is a ***** at times when things don't go as she pleases. But i believe Larian worked hard on their characters. It would make no sense for a character to change completely. She was an horrible wretch and even now, she is not nice. She has a ****ty temper and doesn't see harsh words and insults as being a problem. But on the other hand, she is not the wretched murderer she once was, either. The character didn't change, but evolved drastically. I believe nobody can change, but people can evolve. As such, i believe her redemption is real. At the end of Act 1, once you killed Alexandar, she disappears. Some people wonder where she went. Actually, she explains it herself. When you ask her if she will go back to the Hall of Echoes afterwards, she tells you that she may do so, one day. But that for now, the world lies are her feet and she has all eternity to explore it, and praise Amadia's name. Basically, she went on travel acrosse the world, preaching Amadia's name, as her priestess.

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Interesting detail: in the first game there's was an exploit through which you could make money selling a ton of items to a vendor and then when the vendor is killed/died you can retrieve all the items back. I tried to do the same with Gratiana but it doesn't work because the loot is limited, so if you sell her a lot of items, you can only loot back some of it when she dies, I believe ordered by the most valuable.

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In the definitive edition they changed the dialog to make her regret more convincing and the choice more balanced.

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What do the other necromancers have to say about her ? "She helped his rise to power, feeding him the Source of the innocent as she went", "Treacherous and deceitful - she could LIE BETTER THAN ANY". "She murdered countless innocents: women, children, families, towns."
Even when sharing the memories from her jar, the narrator wonders if that is actually regret for her actions that you feel, or regret for the lecherous life and bloodlust that were her life.
She is the absolute worst. Do not help her!

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I gave her a jar that belonged to the immortal prisoners, and now i dont have the jars. i killed gratiana and she wont drop them.... any help? has she hidden them somewhere?

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After i told everyone to go to the camp she spawned in front of the shriekers and died

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could have sworn there was another way to end this, with convincing her to bathe in the shrine's waters and truly redeeming her

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DO NOT GIVE HER THE WRONG SOUL JAR! Giving the wrong jar had it disapper from her Inventory after a while! YOU CANNOT COMPLETE "A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH"

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i gave her the jar back. after that she thank us and explained well why she did all those evil things. she sounds like she regretted much. her soul has been locked for centuries. in a way it is kind of punishment for her too. and then she break the jar herself anyway afterward.

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Her soul lies on top of my desk for the rest of eternity. She won't get it back and neither will I let it go to afterlife. I think I'll find a nice place for her to die and respawn for the rest of eternity.

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You question her once she calls you insolent pup and gets agressive af. ***** her tbh, I destroyed her jar right in front of her eyes. You go into all that trouble find her soul, consider helping her and thats how she treats you.

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She was helping the seekers and no reason to think she hadn't helped other people. How many ppl do you think she'd have helped over literally thousands of years since she was made undead? Probably not enough to justify the empire she helped make, but***** what else does she have to do? lol

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never ever left her alive.

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wtf. i gave her the jar and only got 30+ attitude- no item offer or exp! Grr!!!

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Once the ship is ready to leave, she is located near the head fountain and dead.

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If your into thievery then keep her alive she carry's lightning spells. You can find her comrades in the max on the eastern part of the map.

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Give her soul = Uncommon item quest reward.

Drop her soul in front of her = 4 rare items that need level 2 Loremaster to ID.

If you don't use wands you won't need her later on.

If you do use wands, after passing a persuasion check, she'll recharge them for you.

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I consumed her soul.
She burned down villages and mass-murdered men, women and children laughing, for this Source thingy with which he helped Rexx to power. If it wasn't for her, maybe Rexx couldn't have done half of what he did. Anyway, later she somehow becomes undead, turns a "priestess" (fast forward a couple of centuries to the present) and when the jars are mentioned, she hurries you to retrieve them (more the merrier) but forgets to mention that she's Braccus Rexx's undead wife who just wants her soul back, then (after her jar is retrieved) if you *dare* to ask why her name's on it, or why she's impatient, she flips, drops the act and calls you names. Some priestess she is, and by the way, how does worshipping a stone head for centuries help anybody? How's that atonement? Nope, she definitely does not regret her crimes, only its outcome. And if you drop the jar in front of her, she's like "nononono" before dying, unlike the necromancers or Withermore(?) who wanted nothing but an end to their unlife of suffering, which implies she wants keep living her unlife or maybe get back her not rotting body with her soul inside, but that makes me wonder just what the hell she's still planning. Regardless...if you drop it, you release her soul, it's afterlife for her, she might just be happier there. How's that punishment, bro?
But even leaving the jar in that armory or keeping it, she might just get bored of this priestess act and gets back to killing for fun.

I wish I knew exactly what happens if you consume her soul. I did that right in front of her, seemed like the best option. Wasn't all that satisfying tho, no extra conversations or anything, but after all she pulled, I wouldn't let her enjoy anything. Also wish there was a more punishing option, but oh well.

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I didn't find her jar until after I did the fight at the abandoned camp- now she is gone. Oh well.

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called me an insolent pup, dropped the jar.

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well i found the cave with the souls before i found her broke the vase and then wondered why the ***** she was dead before i got there XD

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Honestly, she spent like 2000 years making up for what she did. I was okay with giving her the jar.

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Murderer.

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I killed her. I mean come on, She sacrificed a whole village just to please Braccus.

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is she even usefull? she dropped some pretty nice stuff when I dropped it infront of her face in the dialogue option

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