The Forgotten and the Damned

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Location Bloodmoon Island
Suggested Level 15
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The Forgotten and the Damned is a Quest in Divinity: Original Sin II. Coming across various Blazing Sculptures on Bloodmoon Island, you get the feeling they hide treasures beneath them. However, they don't seem to budge when you try to move them. How will you get past this obstacle?

 

 Requirements

  • Scholar Tag

 

Important NPCs

  • Blazing Sculpture

 

 

The Forgotten and the Damned Objectives

  1. Learn "The Taming of the Holy Fire" hymn.
  2. Discover Blazing Sculptures on Bloodmoon Island.
  3. Learn that the High Priest's hymn allows you to enter the vaults.
  4. Sing the hymn to the sculptures.
  5. Enter the vaults.

 

 

The Forgotten and the Damned Walkthrough

On Bloodmoon island, there will be a Blazing Sculpture facing the demon's camp. You may interact with the statue to acquire this quest. You can also acquire this quest by picking up the book "The Taming of the Holy Fire" and read it as a Scholar.

There are 3 sculptures on Bloodmoon Island. In order to activate them, you will need to read a book called "The Taming of the Holy Fire". This book is called "Ornate Hymnal" before you decipher it, and you can find one from these places:

  • Inside Jahan's house.
  • The Archives on the northeast location of the island.
  • On one of the Black Ring magister bodies near the ancestor tree.

You will need a character with the Scholar tag in order to decipher the book's hymn. Reading the book as a scholar will net 14,450XP. Before you enter the vault, however, make sure to first go to the north of the island and find the Ancient Forge (co-ordinates X:317, Y:479). Use the Ancient forge to combine it and the silver bar to create a Silver Lever Shaft. You only need 2 Silver Lever Shafts in the game, for vaults 2 and 3. Silver bars can be found right next to the forge, and on a Black Ring member in the unfinished crypt. There should also be one inside a vase in vault 3.

There are 3 vaults scattered around the southern part of the island, near the demon's camp. Use the hymn to destroy the statues and get into the vault. The quests Delusions of Grandeur and Bound by Pain require you to fix the switch with the Silver Lever Shaft. More details are listed below for each individual vault.

The Location of the Archives:

This is where you will find the Green Teleporter Pyramid, and medical notes to start the "Delusions of Grandeur" and "The Silent One" quests. See "The Secrets of Bloodmoon Island" for more information about this location, including rewards earned.

If you read the notes, you will realize that these vaults actually house people afflicted with demons that the healers could not treat. These afflicted persons were thus locked away along with a healer in order to prevent the demon from ever being a threat to humanity.

The Location of the Vault 1 (Unfinished Crypt):

This crypt is unfinished and holds nothing really noteworthy of value, except for a Silver bar. Exploring it might be necessary for the completion of this quest, though.

The Location of Vault 2:

Upon entering this vault, you will come across a broken lever shaft where you will need to use the Silver Lever Shaft to fix the broken lever and open the wall door. Unfortunately, when you try to use the lever, it doesn't work. Cast Spirit Vision to reveal the spirit of Brother Robert near the statue, and speak to him. Pass the persuasion check and he will unlock the door and beseech you to kill the creature within.

Enter the room and tread lightly. If any character takes the source from the source pool in the room, the lizard will initiate dialogue with that specific character, so be careful. If you agree to set her free, Rajjarima will steal all the source points from your character and break free, initiating combat. Be warned - when she breaks free and initiates combat, she will cast a powerful Arrow Storm that will deal massive damage to your party, especially if they are bunched up together, possibly even killing 2 or 3 of them outright. In any case, kill the possessed Godwoken.

If you refuse her, you will eventually need to pass a speech check. If you are successful, she will not be able to steal any source points from your character and be unable to break free. You can then simply rain arrows or cast ranged spells to kill her safely from high ground.

Ultimately, the simplest method here is to attack her from high ground from the start and not even bothering to pick up any source points from the pool.

Regardless of the method, once she dies, you will earn 36100XP + 21675XP for a total of 57,775XP, and the quest "Delusions of Grandeur" concludes. Remember to speak to the spirit of Brother Robert on your way out for a choice of loot reward.

The Location of Vault 3:

 This Vault is the location for the "Bound by Pain" quest. Enter it, cast Spirit Vision, and speak to Brother Kalvin. Here, you will learn that the demon housed here gluts itself on pain, and only by inflicting the most painful torture possible will you be able to bring the demon to surface. In any case, go ahead and fix the broken lever with a Silver Lever Shaft, then talk to Brother Kalvin again and convince him to open the door for you. You will have to pass a speech check in order to convince him to open the door. Be careful; the Intelligence speech check seems to fail even at 7 persuasion - whereas the memory speech check passed with 5 persuasion.

In any case, once the door is opened, you will come face to face with a possessed dwarf. He will then beg you to destroy the pillars, which of course, when destroyed, will simply free him and initiate combat. Unlike Rajjarima in Vault 2, though, he is weak, and it shouldn't take much effort to kill him for 28900XP.

After he dies though, a demon called "Mor the Trenchmouthed" will appear, attacking you immediately. He is slightly stronger than the possessed dwarf, but is still a relatively easy opponent. The caveat here is that when you damaged Mor, there is a chance he will instantly possess a random (or perhaps closest) party member and turn him or her against you (this effect shows up as "Demonic Invasion" and is not curable). Simply inflict enough damage on that party member to bring him or her near death, and Mor will leave your party member's possessed body. Attack him and he will perish for 21,675XP.

Also, there is a bug that, if Mor was knocked down and a strike from one of your party members would otherwise land the finishing blow, Mor would disappear, placing the "Demonic Invasion" debuff on one of your characters but that character doesn't actually go mad. The combat will end in this case and the debuff will remain on your character permanently, until that character takes fatal damage with 10% or so HP, causing Mor to suddenly appear out of nowhere again and initiate combat.

Alternatively, the better option is simply to save the dwarf from possession. The trick here is simply use one of your party members and continuously damage the dwarf's HP, but not kill him. It is probably recommended to cast healing spells on him so that he doesn't die. You will know its working as he keeps getting knocked down. Keep hitting him until he doesn't get knocked down anymore, then destroy the pillars. It is possible to do enough damage to the demon that it dies. In this case, you will be rewarded exp for killing the demon while it is still inside of the dwarf and the demon will appear as a corpse when you break the pillars.

The moment the pillars are destroyed, the demon should leave the dwarf's body while keeping the dwarf intact. If you did not kill the demon while it was inside the dwarf, then at this stage, it is the same as if you killed the dwarf; damage Mor and if he possesses one of your members, damage that member until he or she is near death as well and Mor should leave the body of your party member. Attack him when he appears and he should perish, granting you 21,675XP. In this case, though, the dwarf survives, and talking to him will net another 36,100XP. The quest is concluded at this point.

As you make your way out of the vault, make sure to speak to Brother Kalvin for a choice of loot reward. If you did not manage to save the dwarf, Brother Kalvin will instead sadly disappear, leaving you with nothing.

The Location of Vault 4:

This is the vault for "The Silent One" quest. Enter it, and use Spirit Vision as usual to see the spirit of the dead healer, Brother Morgan. Speak to him and he will ask you to bring the poor girl confined within the vault to somewhere peaceful. Agree (or lie) and he will open the vault for you.

Inside, in order to talk with the girl, you have to first pass a speech check with the cat (requires Pet pal talent) so that it will let you speak with her mistress. In the event that you fail the speech check, there is no choice but to kill the cat for 1400XP. Destroy the source chains chaining the girl and speak to her but note that if you fail the speech check, the girl will not rouse from her slumber. If you fail the speech check with all 4 party members, there will be nothing left for you to do and the quest will remain incomplete. Also, note that you cannot kill the girl since she is a child and thus the game makes her invulnerable to all attacks.

If you pass the speech check, you will gain 14,450XP and be able to teleport the girl aboard the Lady Vengeance to cure her at a later stage. The quest, "The Silent One", is complete at this point. Speak to Brother Morgan on your way out and you will receive a choice of common-quality loot reward for your troubles.

After exploring all 4 vaults, the quest should conclude with the last entry being "We found and cleared all four vaults on Bloodmoon Island".

 

Rewards:

  • 14,450XP for reading the "Ornate Hymnal" book with a Scholar character.
  • 57,775XP total for killing the possessed lizard Godwoken and completing the "Delusions of Grandeur" quest.
  • 21,675XP for killing Mor and 36,100XP for saving the dwarf in Vault 3, completing the "Bound by Pain" quest.
  • 14,450XP for managing to rouse the girl in Vault 4, completing "The Silent One" quest.



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    • Anonymous

      29 May 2021 09:44  

      I tried using a silver cup in the ancient forge just for heck of it and it made a lever as well. Apparently any silver ingredient works but they intend you to use the supplied bars.

      • Anonymous

        12 Apr 2021 01:57  

        If you’re playing solo, to save Mor, heal and buff him and run to a safe distance to avoid being possessed. He will defeat the demon and you’ll close the quest with experience and gifts!

        • Anonymous

          16 Mar 2021 22:12  

          In the vault 3, u can save the dwarf hiting him until the close to death effect expires. Then break the pilars and flee the battle (run to the entrance). Before, u can buff the dwarf. He can solo the demon and finish the quest. Come back and talk to him (sorry for mi bad english xD).

          • Anonymous

            09 Mar 2021 03:19  

            I reported the cat after failing the persuasion tests. Killed the cat and proceeded to talk to girl and teleport her to the boat. Got my reward.

            • Anonymous

              03 Feb 2021 18:59  

              book apparently has a random chance to spawn as loot inside chests...found it inside a chest above the mordus encounter, 14k exp for reading it, but no journal update.

              • Anonymous

                07 Jan 2021 10:14  

                None of the Brothers gave me loot, they kinda just up and poofed even though I saved all that I could. Maybe they changed that in Definitive Edition?

                • Anonymous

                  05 Dec 2020 06:33  

                  I don't see it posted anywhere in comments or in the guide: in my playthrough I found one of the hymn books in Ryker's basement, on a desk in the lever-operated room

                  • Anonymous

                    03 Dec 2020 23:12  

                    The best way to not save dwarf is kill him before destroying chain town. 1. Grab your solo character you think can summon an incarnate and buff it. 2. Take solo char away from main group, (make sure the rest is far enough away from combat. I left my 3 near entrance.) then use that solo character to interact and kill the dwarf. 3. Once dwarf dead. Use solo char to destroy all but 1 chain tower. 4. Then back solo chara away. Just close enough to summon incarnate to edge of pit. Do that. Then buff up the incarnate, especially with range attacks. 5. Use incarnate now to destroy last tower. That forces out demon. 6. Have incarnate fight demon. Occasionally get your solo char close enough to just buff the incarnate, but not so close that the demon possesses you. 7. Eventually between your buffs and incarnate, it will kill the demon. Not sure if I got exp for killing the dwarf and demon. But this seemed the easiest route. good luck.

                    • Anonymous

                      10 Nov 2020 03:22  

                      You actually don't need to pass Robert's persuasion check, I just used source vampirism on him and the game told me that he no longer controls the lever.

                      • Anonymous

                        08 Nov 2020 23:01  

                        This is wrong. I got no rewards from the ghosts, and things did not play out the same. When i was hurting the dwarf a demon never appeared.

                        • Anonymous

                          20 Oct 2020 09:06  

                          With the shackles of pain demon, I was able to defeat it with no possessions purely by keeping my characters out of its line of sight. Standing by the door I was able to hit it with one character using Ricochet, Barrage and Fossil Strike. Have to spend a few turns waiting for skills to become available again and hope it doesn't move (pool of oil from Fossil Strike seemed to do the trick)

                          • Anonymous

                            07 Oct 2020 04:00  

                            Best way to deal with the possessing one is to cast living on the edge on the dwarf when he's low. Then you don't have to worry about accidentally killing him.
                            Once that happened the demon came out I tried to one shot it jumped to another party member who I did the same thing to and won.

                            • Anonymous

                              05 Oct 2020 22:26  

                              The only way I could kill possessing demon was to run away and let the dwarf beat it up. You might have to heal/buff him right after breaking the chains, but then RUN and he does kill it. You will not get the XP if you are not in the fight, so I had to return, get instantly possessed (screw this quest) but I only had to down my character once after that.

                              • Anonymous

                                01 Sep 2020 06:50  

                                Best way to do is to try your best to kill it ASAP, send all your dudes outside of the vault, and stand away from the ledge enough to teleport it out of the pit and kill it with your solo character there. It'll die and complete the quest with the demon dead and the dwarf safe. This way, it won't possess you or the dwarf because it's too far away and not in line of sight of anyone it can possess.

                                • 01 Sep 2020 01:17  

                                  Trying to kill the demon inside the dwarf does not work, been at it for a good 2 hours now, i tried doing the method mentioned above for about 20 min, hitting the dwarf and healing him, every time the demon comes out full health. after trying 3 times i got fed up and just one shot him with mortal blow because nothing else worked. So attack the dwarf before breaking the chains, once his resist death is out and he is knocked down, save, break the chains to start the fight and if the demon doesnt come out as soon as the fight start just reload the save and hit the dwarf some more, if he dies then yoube gone to far, just reload again, i counted how many times i had to hit him before he died and hit him one time less,then healed him full just in case and broke the chains and the demon was out instantly. Also if you plan to use mortal blow, buff yourself with encourage and bedroll, do not use backlash or he will possess your character when you use mortal blow. just use cloak and dagger, then chameleon cloak and mortal blow. if it isnt a proper one shot it wont work

                                  • Anonymous

                                    26 Aug 2020 04:55  

                                    PS4 This is instanity! #1 There's no pillars in the dwarf/Mox room. #2 I tried the flee method,they don't fight each other after demon is out of dwarf when I come back. #3 Demon can "jump" to a character like 18m away behind walls. #4 I've beatin 3 of my characters to a pulp to release demon,he ends up back in the far room next to the dwarf everytime(they still don't fight,just stand next to each other) #5 Tried like bone widows alone to fight em. Works for a minute,then bam he's back in a character way the f@$# away. Wtf here?? Guess I'll keep pounding my own guys till I get it done

                                    • Anonymous

                                      25 Aug 2020 17:31  

                                      It always says speaking to the brother that guarded the vault after finishing the vault will give you "a choice of loot reward". what does that mean? i finished all the vaults with the positive outcome, talked to all the brothers and they just thanked me and vanished

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