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If you lost the letter and cannot find it, here's how you can get it back with the use of the save editor:

0. Prior to editing, make a backup copy of your save
1. Have a character get a random generic book in their inventory and save
2. Open your .lsv save file with the editor
3. Select the character who has the book in their inventory from the menu
4. In their inventory find an item called "Gen_Book"
5. Right click and select "Show Tree"
6. Find and expand "attribute[id=CurrentTemplate]"
7. Right click on value and select modify, replace whatever the current value is with this: ffaa5485-ccc8-4e66-9ba6-3152dc6f827c
8. Find and expand "attribute[id=Rotate]"
9. Right click on value and select modify, replace whatever the current value is with this: 0 0.4501397 0 0.8929582
10. Close this window and File → Save

If you did this correctly the character selected for this will now have the letter in their inventory allowing you to finish the quest.

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Do Option 3 above, but if Beast is in your party, kill him during the fight.... he will then NOT quit your party if you decide to cut Lohar's head off.... as a corpse, Beast still gets EXP

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About killing Lohar for 5000 + 6000 xp, you MUSTN'T let Beast make contact with Lohar. (Not sure what happen with Beast Main)
Once Beast started his first conversation with Lohar, there is always an option to spare or kill Lohar after his HP drop to 0 regardless of whether you isolated Beast from the fight or not.
Once the option appeared, you will only get 5000xp for killing Lohar while 0 xp for sparing him, missing out the 6000 xp entirely.

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Ok, I managed to get 5000 + 6000 XP from Lohar that I read about so I will copy and paste the instructions from 2 comments that greatfully helped with this, and modify them with what I did for (hopefully) max xp. You require at least 2 characters for this.

Make sure to do this first:

· Go to Fishery factory basement and discover Soulforge weapons. You will fight some voidwoken there.
· Investigate Mordus' house in Driftwood and give "Letter to Mordus" to Lohar BEFORE you travel to Wrecker's Cave. You can either go to the house before talking to Lohar (persuade the lady guarding) or talk to Lohar first and then go there.
· Get Queen's Letter AND Mordus' Amulet from Wrecker's Cave. You get both things by dealing with Mordus at the Wrecker's Cave.

Then it goes like this:

1. Make sure you have "Letter from the Dwarven Queen" with ONE CHARACTER and "Mordus' Amulet" with ANOTHER CHARACTER.
2. Go to Lohar with the CHARACTER that possess the "Mordus' Amulet" and talk to him, don't proceed with the conversation (this will keep his 3 guards in place).
3. With your OTHER CHARACTER that have the "Letter from the Dwarven Queen", head over to Magister Julian. Give him the letter, after that he will ask for Lohar's head. DON'T MENTION THE SOURCE WEAPONS YOU FOUND. Now you can teleport this character using the pyramid back to the one that is talking to Lohar.
4. With your character that was left hanging talking to Lohar, confirm you have killed Mordus and hand over Mordus' amulet.
5. Exhaust all dialog options about Deathfog and Source teachers. Once you have heard all the important information, you will finish the conversation.
6. Speak with Lohar using the CHARACTER that gave the Letter to Julian, this will prompt a dialog saying he knows what you did and you will be able to start a fight.
7. Kill Lohar, his 3 guards and the prisoner. Make sure that no aggressive action happens outside the room, otherwise you will aggro everyone else. One guard is standing outside, so just attack the ones that are inside and wait for him to come in (killing Lohar first yielded me 5000 + 6000 XP, don't think the order is important but that's how it happened).
8. Get Lohar's head. And don't forget there is a safe behind the painting with more loot.
9. Back to Julian. ONCE AGAIN DON'T MENTION THE SOURCE WEAPONS (it will give you less xp). Hand in Lohar's head.
10. You now have finished both The Law and Order and Shadow over Driftwood. You should have gotten a key from both Julian and Lohar for the 2nd floor of the Magister Building and you can also kill Julian now.

Have fun :)

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Yet another example of why this game is so confusing. I just handed the letter to Lohar, and when I get back to Julian he keeps telling me to find evidence. Had I not read online guides I would go back to the dwarven base and run around hours looking for the item. Larian tries to give options but is really bad at ending the quests. Too many loose ends.

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You can avoid combat with the other patrons in the underrtavern if they dont see you are in combat. However keeping the 4-5 enemies in lohars room gets crowded.

The easiest way to do this is to teleport lohar to the area where dorotya gives you the spider kiss. (It seems you can teleport him multiple times without him becoming aggressive, but you can stand in the doorway and move lohar with one cast to that spot) then run down to him and initiate combat in dialogue or just attack for a preemptive strike to begin the fight. It will take his goons a few turns to reach you giving you enough time to dispatch lohar. Just continue to pass your turn and stay in that little space where you get the spider’s kiss. Kill the goons when they get to you.

If done right, none of the other patrons will have joined combat and after the fight, their icons on the minimap will become yellow again.

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What happened to all the 2020-2021 comments?

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DE edition and both the article and comments are wrong.

To max EXP, make sure that you have done 3 things before confronting Lohar:
(1) Investigate Mordus' house in Driftwood and give "Letter to Mordus" to Lohar, **BEFORE** you travel to Wrecker's Cave
(2) go to Fishery factory basement and discover Soulforge weapon
(3) get Queen's Letter AND Mordus' Amulet from Wrecker's Cave and carry both with you

When you confront Lohar, the game will limit your choices so that you can only finish "Shadow over Driftwood" first, and no matter which option you choose (blame him / agree to travel to Arx) you'll get the next quest, and conversation will end.

From here, you get 3 choices to finish "The Law of the Order"
(1) You talk to Lohar again, give letter to Lohar: quest ends immediately. You get no extra exp & few garbage rewards.
(2) You talk to Lohar again, show the letter to Lohar, but don't give it to him: you fight Lohar + 3 minions + 1 prisoner under interrogation, kill them all then talk to Magister Julian. You get extra 31000 exp (including killing everyone in the room) + level 9 legendary gear as reward.
(3) You talk to Magister Julian first, then talk to Lohar again: you fight Lohar + 1 minion, then talk to Magister Julian. You get extra 25000 exp (including killing Lohar + minion) + level 9 legendary gear as reward.

Fighting Lohar will ***NOT*** make the whole undertavern hostile to you, *IF* you can control the combat inside Lohar's room. Both option (2) and (3) mentioned above are the same. After you killed Lohar and his minions, everyone else will calm down and forget what just happened. All the conversations to NPC traders will *NOT* change, as if nothing had happened at all.

P.S.
(1) If you go to Magister Julian first, the prisoner will be killed and two interrogators will move to Effie's shop, and you won't be able to fight them without mass massacre.
(2) Fishery factory basement does not have a standalone quest in DE, ver 3.6.69.4648; finding Soulforge weapon will be marked as quest progress of this quest. Talking to Julian will NOT give you any option to reveal smuggled weapon, either.

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DE - refusing to give Lohar the letter turns the entire underground hostile, including Murge (who seems to have revived...), so third option doesn't work

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The third option is still available; once all those hostile in the immediate vicinity are killed, the rest of the tavern returns to non-hostility, UNLESS you engage someone outside of Lohar's party.

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Where the hell are the magister barracks????

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There is so much confusing, outdated and wrong info here its making my head hurt. So, here is a summary for both "Law of the Order" and "Shadows over Driftwood" on DE(!)
1. Make sure you have "Letter from the Dwarven Queen" and "Letter to Mordus"
2. Go to Lohar, and hand in the "Letter to Mordus" (2000XP)
3. Confirm you have killed Mordus and hand over Mordus' amulet (2800XP)
4. Exhaust all dialog options about Deathfog and Source teachers. DO NOT give him the Letter from the Dwarven Queen
5. Head over to Magister Julian but leave one of your characters in the room with Lohar to prevent the guards to wander of. Hand over the Letter from the Dwarven Queen to Julian. He will ask for Lohar's head.
6. Go back to Lohar. If you have Beast in your group unchain him and leave him somewhere out of sight.
7. Lohar will automatically give you a dialog option to start a fight with him "I know you betrayed me yaddah yaddah...)
8. Kill Lohar and his guards. (8000XP from 3 guards and 1 prisoner; 5000XP for finishing Lohar) Make sure that no aggressive action happens outside the room (i.e. do not range attack the guard at the door). The rest of Undertavern will turn hostile but will not engage as long as all the action happens inside Lohar's room. (Note: There is a comment somewhere that states that killing Lohar yields 5000 + 6000 XP but I have never been able to replicate the additional 6000XP)
9. Get Lohar's head. And don't forget there is a safe behind the painting with more loot.
10. If you have not done so already, make sure you have the quest "Fishy Business" and have found the source weapons in the basement of the fishery.
11. Back to Julian. Do not mention the smuggled source weapons and just hand in Lohar's head (12000XP). If you haven't found the source weapons yet or mentioned the source weapons to Julian you will only get 9000XP at this point.

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You can also kill Lohar with trap skills without talking to him. This way the Undertavern NPCs won't turn hostile.

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There is a way to avoid first bug by initiating conversations with Lohar and Julian (preferably by Beast) at the same time - it prevents Lohar from being hostile and taking the letter.
Just speak to him one more time after you get the quest from Julian, kill him, speak to Julian (Beast again, he is already there), get all rewards and XP.

Quick and clean.

All in Undertavern turn hostile, but they're OK after you kill Lohar and his henchmen.

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also if you have beast in your party and you are confident enough to take on 4 vs 3 you can put beast outside of the cave and you wont get dialogue for him to leave you can just kill lohar and add him back in your party

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You can exhaust all options with the Queen's Letter by first giving Mordus' amulet to Lohar (don't choose the option to show him the letter) and receive your reward. At this point, have your teammates talk to the two guards by Marla so they won't leave the area if you want to fight them along with Lohar for the extra experience. Then give the Queen's letter to Magister Julian and buy it back from him. Head back to Lohar and give him the letter for a reward. Then choose the option to fight and you can bring back his head to Magister Julian (unless you have Beast in your party).

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"Odd a chill just rolled up my spine". Hidden digging spot yields what exactly???

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I have Lohar’s head in my inventory, and the quest log still says to give the head to Magister Julian, but the only speech option I get is to ask him to remind me of my mission. Does anyone know how to give him the head??

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Cleared the whole cave with Mordor in it(my party never got separated into 4)1st. Used the back way hole to fight him instead of the front. Went to Underground, pickpocketed who I could(only 1 character with theivery) Blocked Lohars room door with the two crates below 1st henchman while I had party in room. Everyone turned red but the other people didn't attack or use a turn(1st time I tryed they did,was a b@$#h!) Got the level 9 reward(I was 12)for Mordus kill from Lohar. Then I wouldn't give him letter, kicked a$$(turn to chicken works great) Went to Magistrate with his head after. Killed Magistrate cause there a cancer. Quest done...

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this entire area of the game just got awful. the first island was great but i'm finding myself completely frustrated at this second island especially this quest and i'm thiiiiiiiiiiis close to deleting it and turning it in for something else

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PC Definitive Edition, did some testing, best sequence of actions for "The Law of the Order" and "Shadow Over Driftwood" that i found is as following: (1) Start both quests ("The Law of the Order" and "Shadow Over Driftwood") - Go to Mordus safehouse, acquire "Letter to Mordus" from cellar/underground cave. Keep this letter on you for now, dont talk to Lohar or Julian for now. (2) After fully exploring Driftwood, doing all quests that i could do locally like Missing Magisters, Hide & Seek, cleared the way from Driftwood till Wreckers cave, all this got me to level 11 (or close to it?) (3) Went to Wreckers Cave, killed everything there on the right side portion of the cave, where you get separated (after this you should be lvl 11 for sure). (4) Proceeded to left portion of the cave where you encounter Mordus right away, dealt with him (make sure to kill all adds first or you miss out on XP if you kill Mordus first) (5) Acquire "Letter from Dwarven Queen" in the room ahead (Don't miss on the closed hatch in this room, it leads to a cave thats gonna trigger a fight with a shark + 4 crabs that each give good XP aswell, kill the crabs first. Step on the traps in the water to trigger this fight, i'm not sure how i proc'ed the ecounter myself, just walk around in the water after you looted the dead body.) (6) Now we should have both "Letter to Mordus" and "Letter from Dwarven Queen" in inventory. (7) Before you talk to Lohar, drop "Letter to Mordus" on the ground. (8) Talk to him and choose the option that sayd "You've bested Mordus", DO NOT choose the option that gives gives him the "Letter from Dwarven Queen" (you can exhaust his dialogue about the deathfog shipment, how you have to go after it in Arx, and you can also ask him about whereabouts of source teachers, just don't mention Queens letter) (9) "Shadow Over Driftwood" should complete and you get to choose your reward, plus he gives you Lohars unique hammer, great 2 hand weapon (this weapon scales with your level, if you want to delay all this part till you're level 16/17 right before you're leaving act 2, it also works) (10) Now before you go talk to Julian, split your party and keep at least 1 guy in Lohar's room, if you don't do this, next time you go back to that room his prisoner and 2 other of his thugs will have left the room, so you'll get less XP from the fight (~6000 less, the prisoner also gives XP), so keep at least 1 of your guys there and this won't happen (11) Take "Letter to Mordus" from the ground and, with your party split, send someone to talk to Julian, he'll take both Queen and Mordus letters and ask you to kill Lohar (12) Regroup in Lohars room, talk to Lohar and choose the dialogue option that aggros him (that you're there to kill him or something) (before you talk to him spread your guys on each corner of the room, makes fight much easier), kill him and his guys, keep the fight inside the room (do not use any fear effects or polymorph chicken, those will cause enemies to run out of the room and alert the whole Undertavern. When you finish Lohar you should also see bonus XP pop up (5000 XP for killing him and 6000 XP for quest bonus i think) (13) Loot everything, take his head to Julian and get epic items reward + 12000 XP Total XP = 33.800 (14) All in all you get both choosable epic item rewards from both quests, the unique hammer, Mordus amulet looted back from Lohars corpse and the 12k XP from Julian. Delivering Letter to Mordus to Lohar only rewards 2000 XP, and after doing that, bringing his head to Julian won't net you any XP. So you lose 10k XP doing that.

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Playing DE on PC. Can no longer aggro Lohar AT ALL without entirety of Undertavern turning hostile. Imagine trusting this page before saving. smh.

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I killed Mordus before turning in the Shadow Over Driftwood note, and was still able to turn both in to Lohar, as well as the Wrecked Caravan quest (got 6000 xp for the last one). This is in the Definitive Edition.

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In DE (3.6.58.1306). You can have Beast in team and kill Lohar. 1. Kill Mordus and take the amulet. 2. Talk to Lohar and give him the amulet. Tell the detail story and the deathfog stuff. You will get EXP and Lohar's hammer. 3. Terminate the talk and talk to him again. This time you show the queen's letter but do not give it to him. 4. You will enter the fight but Beast is still in your side. Everyone outside the room become hostile but it doesn't matter. 5. Try to keep the fight within the room. The people outside become friendly again after you finish the battle. 6. Beast won't complain anything about killing Lohar. 7. Give Julian the letter and Lohar's head. He will give you the key and huge EXP (12000).

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I killed mordus and took the amulet, then went to lohar and he gave me the axe and the update for the dwarf queen quest, then I spoke to Julian gave him the letter and he told me to bring him lohar's head, but that didn't updated any quest. I killed him but there was no head in the loot and now when I talk to Julian he says is satisfied with the letter. Did I bugged something? I know bout the thing with the amulet but when the guy asked me his head I thought I was goin to make it

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For some odd reason in DE you can give Julian the letter, and then buy it back for 2 gold

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Exchange the Amulet for the Axe then pickpocket the Amulet back

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I...ate his head after killing him. Went to report it to the magister, he said "no evidence, no reward", and called me a filthy barbaric elf. no reward but priceless reaction haha

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I passed Brayton's persuasion check with Intelligence and 4 persuasion.

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I did the quest today, I think I got 3k XP for killing Lohar. Not 18k like ppl wrote here in previous comments. I guess they changed it in the DE.

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If you want to get the amulett back after you finished the quest, simply use Telekinesis out of sneak on a chest and throw it on marla to kill her and run away. When you return you should be able to pickpocket Lothar without getting caught.

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In addition of my post just now 05-11-19 21:12, answer all Julians questions with that you're not sure Lohar's quilty, he will have made up his mind, but you will be kept out of the loop to deliver his (Lohar's) head to Julian.

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If you do it in the correct order you can get all the rewards.... 1. Hand the letter to Julian, get reward, get quest to investigate, complete, return to Julian 2A. Have your best thief/pickpocketer/sneaker stand behind Julian (for me my main char, Fane), and make sure he's loose from the group. 2B. Give the void-weapons to Julian, do NOT end conversation (with another character offcourse) 2C. Teleport the heck out of there with your thief after pickpocketing him blind, taking all the spoils (incl. the letter of the queen). 2D. Julian will notice he got robbed, allow the search (again, make sure your thief is seperated!), and he will grumble something about the town, yet giving you the rewards. 3. Return to Lohar, give the letter to him, and you will get +20 approval, and a pop-up with some*****ty gear. Most importantly, you will have completed all the trust from all parties, and closed "the law of the order" with all parties friendly, and all objectives achieved. (quadruple-counter-double-agent-style ;)) Worked for me on Tactician Mode (Regular) at lvl13.

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Lohar won’t die, he is just unconscious... after I gave him the amulet and then the letter to magister Julian, I went to the under tavern to get rid of him but he stays unconscious so I can’t close the quest. Any idea why?

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I thought the quest was bugged, but I bought back the letter I sold to a town square vendor. It's titled "Letter from the Dwarven Queen".

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Just wanted to comment that I was able to pass the persuasion check with 5 persuasion.

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You can actually complete both Magister Julain and Lohar quests. First finish Lohar's one, his two-handed axe is damm good for some builds (if you are still beyond level 14), if you are kind to him he'll give you informations about a deathfog machine, which will unlock the Deathfog Rising quest. You can do that even if you don't deliver him the queen's note. Then you speak to Magister Julian, get the initial EXP, kill Lohar and etc

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Should I not kill the group on the pier? Is it more exp killing Julian and raimon etc or doing the quest line they give?

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Actually, if you do this after killing Mordus and turning in the amulet, you can still give it to Lohar. Leave the basement and come back in.

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It is possible to pass the persausion checks and learn who is buying void tainted fish. Just did it with beast, using the option [strength persuasion] [barbarian tab]

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There are 3 a 4 voidlings that have the imumity to fire aura, so they aren't "really weak to fire". Also taking the marked barrels without opening them will also trigger the assualt.

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Unchain the Beast and put him on the Lady Vengeance or somewhere. Take the other three and go kill Lohar and get his head. Get Beast back, turn in the head to Julian, and Beast will be none the wiser.

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also in mordus' cave when you go down to the place where the ritual with the dwarf is, a big ship will fall over you, a shark and some crabs will be in the ship, only the shark will attack you, but you can kill the crabs for some good exp, they will be harmless towards you

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you can do 2 things, one give the letter to julian then go and kill just lohar and flee combat, when you come back only the 3 dwarves near him will have -45 negative attitute toward you, pick the staff from his body, and two, better and more simple, just give lohar the amulet to finish one quest, then throw the letter of the queen to the ground and pick it up again, dont know why but now lohar will have the option to give it to him

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If you turn in the letter to the magister then kill lohar fast enough, the undertavern will be none the wiser. No hostility at all :)

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I found a scroll in a chest in the basement below the fishery. In it, a scroll for "let the doctor know his fish are ready" and then to be cast upon a barrel of fish...... don't know about any doctor or which barrel to cast it on (after also swapping fish in the barrel....). Mysterious. Anyone else know what to do here?

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if beast is in your group and you let him die in the fight with Lohar after you have given him the amulet you can complete both quests. it just worked for me

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The Secret information regarding the fisshery is no longer accurate.
The voidlings don't drop any loot that's different from other voidlings, and they were IMMUNE to fire, not weak.

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In south part of fishery, there is single room with one door, inside barrel behind two crates, is hiding Higba(starts strange cargo quest)

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After finding the letter, I sent one party member to Lohar and one to the magister. Opened dialogue with both: showed lohar the letter, then gave to the magister. I proceeded to kill lohar and still have access to the undertavern.

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with Str - 24 (including +3 from gear) I was able to pass the check with Barnes. He tells you a man in a house buys all the fish.

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The Drudanae addicts fighting style = having a good munch on the durdanae flowers

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4175 exp and some garbage normal loot for turning in the quest to Lohar. 18000 exp for killing Lohar and his goons, tons of gold from taking all his possessions and epic loot from turning Lohar's head in to the Magisters. Not to mention murdering all the Magisters after for even more exp and loot. Clearly working for the magisters is the more profitable option.

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anyone else saw the mob boss victim (ghost) in the drundae farm behind lohar's room? you need to dig up his corpse first before the ghost appears.. is this a quest I'm missing? Is lohar really bad?

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If you cannot close this quest, kill the magister that you are supposed to report to and the quest will close.

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Gave the letter to Lohar, quest didn't complete... wot

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Under the fishery, through a hatch in the back where a black dog is growling, there is a cellar. There's a lot of loot and traps down there since the cellar is the center of a smuggling ring. You will also notice that there are a few marked barrels in there that appear to have poison in them. However one of the marked barrels has source leaking from it.

If you break the seal you will discover a couple of source weapons are hidden inside. You will therefore deduce that the void-tainted fish barrels are being used to camouflage a smuggling operation trafficking in weapons. The barrel also contains a soul-forged crossbow and a soul-forged 2h sword. Although the loot may be random.

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The game automatically uses the queen's letter to make a scroll from the recipes screen. It sucks.

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Any way to end this quest without the note? I lost it.

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You must speak to Lohar twice to finish both this quest and "Shadow over Driftwood"

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Brayton Barnes speech check is possible. I passed the constitution check with a persuasion of 3 while I only had 11 constitution.

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what persuasion is required to pass Lohar's speech checks? I keep getting "What a load of*****e"

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You must have Mordus' Amulet on your character in order to complete the quest for Lohar.

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there is the option of stealing the letter from the magister if one gave it to him

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I think i accidently sold the letter from the queen, making me unable to finish the quest. can anyone tell me the name of the letter from the queen? i need to look around the NPCs to to buy it back

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Killing Lohar while Beast is a member of your party will make him leave your party permanently.

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Cant find Lohar anymore. After not giving him the letter he is no where to be found. I gave it then to the magisters and have to kill him, quest bugged...

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There's a switch at the basement near the traps, what's that suppose to do?

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Hey, when i went back to collect Lohar's hammer and key he said he couldn't find his key on him. Because of this i could not receive the hammer, which is a pity because its a huge power spike for me. Any one else have the same problem?

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I can't give the letter from the queen to Lohar, what do I do? What evidence does he want?

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The journal entry says "We must be careful about who learns of the contents of this letter" regarding the Dwarf Queens letter. The letter can either be handed to Lohar (which closes the quest) or taken to Magister Julian on Driftwood Docks, who then gives further quests to kill Lohar.

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The journal entry says "We must be careful about who learns of the contents of this letter" regarding the Dwarf Queens letter. I handed it in to Lohar. Not sure if this is the only character who you can take the note to, but it closed the quest for me.

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Running up to the basement after you defeat Mordus, along the way you will pass an open room with a letter from the dwarf queen.
Reading it isn't enough, you must pick it up and then the quest updates.

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But this doesn't close the quest.

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